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Offline Tizzy  
#81 Posted : Saturday, March 18, 2017 8:52:57 PM(UTC)
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Well, they didn't actually have their shields up, silly Oorstemothians. If they'd had their shields up it would have been a different story.

As to the bodyguard? You might note that Sam was bothered by, and accused him of, "stealing his schtick" This implies that the bodyguard was purposefully impersonating/stealing Sam's routine/persona of being a fallen angel. Which, if he was a fallen angel, would not be stealing Sam's routine, it would be legitimate. So Sam does not seem to believe that Salvatore is who he says he is.

I also point out that Melissance has no problem sharing a cabin with her lowly bodyguard. Mighty progressive of her, and her archdemon husband.


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#82 Posted : Sunday, March 19, 2017 1:04:56 PM(UTC)
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That is..... a lot of stuff I hadn't thought about. I knew that Salvatore was taking the whole "Fallen Angel/Devil Overlord" image, but I'd thought that is was his normal form and he was just saying that to try and get Sam to reveal himself. And with the bodyguard on the same room? I'd kinda thought that she had him under oath to not do anything to her. Of course, the shield part was mentioned in the last book, wasn't it?
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#83 Posted : Sunday, March 19, 2017 3:44:06 PM(UTC)
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Yes, the shields were mentioned as not having been fully brought up, technically a very huge breach of protocol for Oorstemothians. However, they really aren't that used to such extreme ranged weapons. Normal fireballs/lightning bolts would have been suppressed by what they had up.

And yes, 'Salvatore' was goading Sam. However, it's a bit risky for an archdemon's servant to purposefully antagonize a demon prince. See Major Domo, who also knew who Sam was. However, an archdemon, aligned with, and close to Asmodeus? Much safer to goad. Demon Princes and Archdemons often run in the same social circles and play power games, given that there really aren't that many demon princes and the line between archdemon and demon prince is far blurrier than the lines to everything lower.

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#84 Posted : Sunday, March 19, 2017 9:32:35 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Tizzy Go to Quoted Post

And yes, 'Salvatore' was goading Sam. However, it's a bit risky for an archdemon's servant to purposefully antagonize a demon prince. See Major Domo, who also knew who Sam was. However, an archdemon, aligned with, and close to Asmodeus? Much safer to goad. Demon Princes and Archdemons often run in the same social circles and play power games, given that there really aren't that many demon princes and the line between archdemon and demon prince is far blurrier than the lines to everything lower.


Is Sam really considered a Demon Prince? I'd've expected him to be rated a bit higher, seeing as he's a Co-Factor of the Abyss and directly under what passes for a god in that place
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#85 Posted : Sunday, March 19, 2017 10:59:02 PM(UTC)
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Well, it's all rather iffy, and very political, but yes, they (he and Lilith) call themselves princes, first (two) among equals (ahem)

All of those folks have mighty big egos and for the sake of avoiding all out warfare...the Courts are, what the Courts are and names are what they are.

No one is really wanting to "test" the limits. All of them are slightly neurotic. The worst thing that could happen would be for them to push too hard and provoke a true test of power only to find out that they (whoever/whichever prince) is not as powerful as they thought.

True power among the princes is not just raw blasting power, but influence, and how much "power" others think you have. It is better to remain quiet and ominous and let everyone fear you, then to have to put your cards on the table and perhaps reveal you aren't as powerful as everyone thought.

In your own world, it's often possible for a mighty nation to be humbled, and proven less powerful than perceived and lose a lot of 'face' and influence.

The Spanish Armada comes to mind, but there are many more recent examples.



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#86 Posted : Monday, March 20, 2017 10:37:51 PM(UTC)
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Hmmm...... very interesting, thank you Tizzy.
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#87 Posted : Wednesday, March 22, 2017 9:29:38 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Tizzy Go to Quoted Post
Is the helmet now like an exoskeleton?

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#88 Posted : Monday, June 12, 2017 5:00:36 PM(UTC)
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After reading this topic I did some brain storming and Tom needs a woman he can trust, someone he can talk with about his fears.
Toms love interest doesnt have to lead him or whatever but he needs someone who was his back at all times.

So lets go back to the only person suggested here, Inethya the Prophetess of Nysegard. This seems unlikely for now but with nothing better to do at work I came up with this:
Tiernon cant prove that Sentir Fallon did anything wrong. It happened long ago and Sentir Fallon was careful (the little prick). Using the interdiction to justify his orders Sentir Fallon is going to forbid most activity in his localverse and any presence on Nysegard. Tiernon (the idiot) wont interfere (cause he is stupid as always). Inethya wont take this crap anymore, she tries to go higher up because the people of Nysegard need help but she remains unheard. The Stormlords wont take the defeat kindly and are going to terrorize the people for years with guerilla vamps and other nameless horrors. Inethya knows that, she knows that her people need her and she is going to leave the church before she forsakes her people and quite a few Saints follow her. Depleted of Tiernons Mana they help however they can as they work closer and closer together with Doom. Inethya always knew that Doom is honorable but she sees now that Tom and his friends are doing what needs doing. They dont do this for power, to gather followers, dont use the people like the gods do. She is fascinated. Maybe even ready to follow this demon into the Abyss


Sorry for the bad english, I learned by watch tv and reading books (school sucks)
finally: I would like to think that Tom finds his ONE lady and that they both support and inspire each other!

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#89 Posted : Monday, June 12, 2017 6:31:38 PM(UTC)
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>Tom needs a woman he can trust, someone he can talk with about his fears.

Why? That's what I'm here for, Tizzy trusty confident of the Demon Princes and the Gods. Beloved adviser of wise immortals!

Of course, the position you speak of is one that Tamarin wants to fulfill, that's what djinnis really enjoy doing. Intellectual and physical advisers.

However, Inethya is an interesting thought, However, not a sure bet. First thought it would be Jenn, then Zelda, now Tamarin...maybe Inethya...very hard to tell at this point.

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#90 Posted : Monday, June 12, 2017 9:45:43 PM(UTC)
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I am sure you will be part of every important moment in Toms life Tizzy (his first time, his weeding, his devorce - you get it), but the multiverse has you only once (yet) and so we take comfort in the secondbest (pussy)

and I guess that we didnt meet Toms love interest yet (at least not in a big role) IF he gets something serius in this series (he is rather busy)
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#91 Posted : Monday, June 12, 2017 9:57:11 PM(UTC)
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You bring up a good point. In some other thread, some long time back, on this site. We were talking about duplicating me.

That would make things much easier, if I could replicate myself. However, I am not sure how to do perfect replication, I only know of imperfect replication where one mates with a female. Unfortunately, all those I've whom I have approached have admitted to be unworthy of me. I don't quite understand, I am more than willing to lower my standards for them, however, they all insisted that it would some sort of multiversal crime if I did not have a worth bride whose ani-genetic material was fully suitable to mine.

Again, I'm more than happy to settle for imperfect little Tizzies, but they all demur. I must admit, it is rather depressing....

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#92 Posted : Tuesday, June 13, 2017 12:11:40 AM(UTC)
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I had an odd thought while rereading bk 3. Tamarin is, for all intents and purposes, a flesh and blood female. Does that mean that she has a bloodmoon? Can she get pregnant? If so, when she asks Tommus, what'll happen? I know that he'll most likely tell her what it means, but will he get her pregnant or will he leave that to/ recommend Vaselle?
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#93 Posted : Tuesday, June 13, 2017 1:01:07 AM(UTC)
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Interesting, I believe this just came up in the Amazon forums as well, so it's clearly a thought going around.

In principle, yes she can get pregnant, if she wishes, or not if she doesn't. Like many supernatural beings, she has to work to create life, same as a demon, but yes she could do so if she chose to.
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#94 Posted : Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:07:22 PM(UTC)
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Quite frankly, we haven't seen any DESIRE from Tom. Granted, he hasn't been given a whole lot of time, but surely there'd be SOMEone, female or male, that caught Tom's eye and made him a little...anxious, if you know what I mean. He's 17 or 18 years old. Even if the hormones that normal human teenagers deal with are now gone in his demon body, there should at least be the habit of thinking about sex a lot. So far, nothing. In fact, the only time he even acknowledges his...what do humans call it, a tallywacker? Way back in book one, when he was examining his body for the first time, and when he finally realized he was walking around naked, in front of a girl. Ever since then, there's been zero sexual desire. Can he even get an erection any more? I mean, has he even tried?

Kind of makes it difficult to find a love interest, if you have no desire for love or intimacy.
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#95 Posted : Tuesday, June 13, 2017 3:17:15 PM(UTC)
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Yeah, I am aware of that. I've kind of side stepped it for the moment, and it should be discussed in Tom's head at least.

There are a couple of issues facing him on this front:

1) Tom is a virgin, but he is/was as a human, interested in girls, just didn't really know how to relate to them, or many people, recall his previous social life was very non-existent before he moved. He was working to change that, hence the party.
2) At first he was very self conscious of his appearance, being a hideous demon and all, and really the only person of potential interest was Jenn, and in fact she was originally to be his love interest, but that has not worked out, and Gastrope' has been (sort of) making the moves on her, and he hasn't seen her for some time, and Tom is not getting any friendly vibes from her.
3) Next, he's been surrounded by male demons, and then D'Orcs. The problem is, he has not been around D'Orcs enough to really be attracted to a female D'Orc, and even if he was, most of them are extremely intimidating and thousands of years old. Which is mentally intimidating.
4) The exception being Zelda, who is very young by D'Orc standards, she's around 30. However, she's his subordinate, as are all the D'Orcs and that makes it awkward and then there is the attraction thing.
5) Next, there is Tamarin, and she is a very possible target of his affection, although also still a bit intimidating as she's literally a genie, who looks like Barbara Edens from I Dream of Jeanie. Now she is very willing, but he's very awkward towards her, and it will take some time. And her referring to him as 'Master' is not a big turn on for him.

And one thing, one thing he does/did think about is the size thing. Most of the women he would be attracted to are much smaller than him. He could size change or be Edwyrd, but what if he 'lost it' upon orgasm? He could split his partner in two. Now a D'Orc would be fine (but there is the attraction thing) and then there is Tamarin, she could just get bigger, or grow with him.

So in a nutshell, he's not got a lot of women around to chose from, most of them are thousands of years old or intimidating in some other way, or not attractive to him and then there is his body image issue.

So his best bet is probably Tamarin, but Vaselle is making moves there, slowly. The big hold up is the master/djinni balance of power that Tom doesn't know how to deal with. Of course, since Vaselle wants nothing more than to be possessed by Tom--this could be quite interesting...

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#96 Posted : Tuesday, June 13, 2017 3:43:52 PM(UTC)
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I dont see a insecure boy/dark lord making moves in his genie without a fetish for the master thing. He would always ask himself if she was into this or doing it because he wants it ("she feels my desire and wants to please me but does she want to do this with me because she likes me?")
It would be his first time, a young bookworm would place some value on it OR throw it away at the first opportunity (Tom has to know that the female D'Orcs are ready and willing, he is linked to them)
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#97 Posted : Tuesday, June 13, 2017 3:58:41 PM(UTC)
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Yeah, I agree, which why I don't really see it either, she's just the most obvious choice, and I say that because she actually wants to experience carnality very badly. It's a big part of why young djinn sign up for several decades of service to a mortal.

I keep tossing girls at him, but none seem right. Jenn, Zelda, Tamarin...

Of course, for immortals, there is no huge rush to fall in love, marry and procreate. They do so for companionship and for sex as desired, but even so, when you have thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions and billion years...there is time.

And that vow of "till death do us part..." is a pretty strong commitment if death never comes...
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#98 Posted : Tuesday, June 13, 2017 4:28:53 PM(UTC)
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yet it came... (death)

You didnt let us down so far and I dont see the series ending anytime soon so I will wait.


Regarding other love interests I wonder about this chemistry:
Zelda (Steward of the Mount) & the Valg Death Cheater (half-D'Orc Shaman)
Teragdor (Apostle of Tiernon) & Karis Crooked Stick (Battle Priestess of Tiernon)

Hilda & Trisfelt have a great chemistry but I dont see them getting intimate. They make a great team though and (my pet theory) Trisfelt could have realized that Hilda is a saint and he doesnt care. She is great, they have a great time and the wizards dont have to deal with the heavenly host (who doesnt want to have a few great dinners instead of unnecessary stress).
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#99 Posted : Tuesday, June 13, 2017 4:39:59 PM(UTC)
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I trust you TAG, you've done great with the books so far, so in my opinion it will all turn out all right in due time.
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#100 Posted : Wednesday, June 14, 2017 1:27:45 PM(UTC)
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Yeah, I agree, which why I don't really see it either, she's just the most obvious choice, and I say that because she actually wants to experience carnality very badly. It's a big part of why young djinn sign up for several decades of service to a mortal.

I keep tossing girls at him, but none seem right. Jenn, Zelda, Tamarin...

Of course, for immortals, there is no huge rush to fall in love, marry and procreate. They do so for companionship and for sex as desired, but even so, when you have thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions and billion years...there is time.

And that vow of "till death do us part..." is a pretty strong commitment if death never comes...


I'm not talking about love or marriage. Not even him having sex. I just meant there's not even any desire at all. No real passion about anything. Maybe it's just because he's been running around trying to do EVERYTHING at once that he hasn't had time to even look at a pretty girl (or boy or whatever) and say in his head "Wow, she/he's hot!" or seeing something in Doom and geeking out a little about it. It's almost as if the job is sucking out any and all joy for anything out of him. Even when they were in the spa, it was almost as if he wasn't enjoying it all that much. If I didn't know any better, I'd think he was getting depressed. Depression can sneak up on you. Think
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